More Than a Shop presenter Elizabeth Alker chats to two people convinced that the UK economy would be transformed if more businesses were worker and employee owned. Hear a fascinating discussion between Elizabeth and Beau Bulman from Suma – Europe's largest equal pay employer – and James Wright, from Co‑operatives UK – the UK's national association of co-operative businesses or all shapes and sizes. The episode also features Leeds Bread Co‑op – a worker owned co‑operative bakery in Leeds. Subscribe to future episodes and find out about the More Than a Shop podcast at http://morethanashop.coop. A transcript of the episode is available here: https://www.uk.coop/resources/more-than-a-shop Special thanks to: • Beau Bulman, Suma: https://www.suma.coop • James Wright, Co-operatives UK: https://uk.coop • Leeds Bread Co-op: https://leedsbread.coop More Than a Shop is a collaboration between Co‑operatives UK, The Co‑op, Co‑op News, The Co‑operative College and The Co‑operative Heritage Trust. The series is presented by Elizabeth Alker. It is produced by Geoff Bird on behalf of Sparklab Productions. Please note: The More Than a Shop series was recorded before the outbreak of the Coronavirus pandemic.